Its about a different perspective

Its about a different perspective
It’s amazing when those who think they like free speech turn away when questioned. Extremist views on the nature of things grant nothing but extremism itself. You want to live in grey, then stop pushing and advertising an ideology, for as soon as a person speaks their mind, they are making their opinion...MD / The photo represents the naive thinking that one can think in an unconscious grey state of mind: you cannot think in an unconscious state (thinking is an effort). I am not sure where some get their expert titles from! The grey area represents those who think grey areas is where safety should be. Status Quo is the alternative solution that may emerge over time in following of those who think they know all. An head up arse is just where some people thrive...sorry

Safety - time for a new direction (Laing O’Rourke)


This was posted (the link below) on linkedin before it was taken off, as I suppose I must of made some comments that seen through the BS, especially by Dr Long who in my view will agree with anyone who may help get noticed. And poor old John got sucked right into his BS...oh no ROB... that is, "we are moving away from measuring failure"!! Lets see the evidence of that Mr Green! I can come a spend a week and any of your locations to test this.

http://www.laingorourke.com/engineering-the-future/eej-2016/safety-time-for-a-new-direction.aspx
Here is the transcript comments (my comments in blue... the colour of people faces when I challenge their views)



LONG - Great story and congrats except that incident rates are not a measure of safety



JOHN GREEN - Rob, indeed they are not and that's we are moving away from measuring failure



LONG - Great work John, i admire all you and Laing ORourke are doing



SAFETY CYNIC (ME) - Rob...Incident rates are and can be a measure of safety. And when you talk of what safety needs and must do (as you always advertise), then lacking any of these 'things' can account for a increase in injuries (incidents)...so when we see an increase in a particular area of failure (hand injuries), this measure shows safety is in need of attention, we can then implement changes. I have also seen you measure perceptions in safety, why would you conduct a pissy IQ survey full of leading questions...what is the measure/score for?

And funny enough...the article continually uses a measure of incident rates to say how well its improved. And with Dekker talking about zero harm...keep in mind my views on the other end of scale...that promoting excellence, maturity and worldclass... can and do and encourage the suppression, discouragement or recategorisation of incident or injury data and lead to other ‘numbers games’. Last thing a tier one wants is to loose its measure of safety (that's a valuable reputation to loose!!) so we see the good old return to work RTW) programs reduce the measure...for safety sake! 

And also, I must be highly critical about how safety improves with some new age solution...could it be just the fact that the extra interest in safety has improved safety! Say the old system has been in place for 5 years...there is no excitement, no interest, incidents 'measure' has gone up!!! as it just there in a background...then suddenly, a new CEO comes on board and revisits all the same old stuff...but actually does things like replace old equipment, put some workers though training and purchase everyone some new safety gear...WOW...the reintroduction of the old stuff has really improved safety!!!


And these people are supposed to be safety experts...i just work on a farm every now an again!!!

I have not finished with this post...let's see what happens when they have an incident!!!